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Stowe Boyd

So Larry Ellison took the opportunity at a recent presentation to go off on a rant about cloud computing. He basically thinks it baloney.

His points (such as they are, when you pull away the Valley girl inflection he ascribes to a cloud computing advocate) are these:

  1. Salesforce and Netsuite have been around almost ten years, and Oracle’s world hasn’t come to an end. (So I guess we are supposed to conclude that cloud computing doesn’t represent a future?)

  2. He’s tired of people saying that they have been ‘doing’ cloud computing for years. (Huh?)

Of course Ellison wants to defang cloud computing as much as possible: it is a threat. The spectre of Amazon, Google, and applications running in the cloud on top of someone else’s technology platform has got to be the largest long-term strategic threat to his business. To the degree that the enterprise wants to get away from managing their own hardware and close source software — and who wouldn’t if they can get security and scaling issues resolved? — that is the hard stop in Oracle’s future.

Ben Kepes

Cross posting from CloudAve - specialist Cloud Computing and SaaS blog.

If you’re moving towards cloud computing, what’s your shortlist? What questions should you ask? What answers should you demand? Join this panel of analysts and cloud computing experts as we build a selection criteria live, arming you with the facts you need to pick a cloud solution that’s right for you.
Speakers:

  • Tony Lucas, CEO, XCalibre
  • Simon West, Chief Marketing Officer, Terremark
  • Alex Barnett, Group Manager, Intuit Partner Platform and IDN, Intuit
  • Jason Hoffman, Founder and CTO, Joyent

A discussion about dedicated versus agnostic platforms ? Alex Barnett pointed out that the Intuit Partner Platform is agnostic ie not targeted specifically to service Intuit parent company applications. (Disclosure ? I?ve done a little bit of work with Intuit on the partner platform while in Boston)

A general discussion on conflicts of interest ? don?t cloud providers have conflicts of interest in wanting to help users waste cycles versus helping them optimize their operations. Some good comments about the cloud computing relationship being more of a partnership ? when transparency and mutual benefit prove value and encourage customer loyalty.

Plenty of discussion around the costs of cloud computing ? which is always a shame ? I?ve long said that selling cloud computing based purely on cost savings is not only potentially wrong, but also a mistake in that it forgets the real value to be derived from this stuff. I?d have thought at an event like this the cost discussion would have been left behind.

Are enterprises only after ?legacy? component-centric clouds or will they eventually want to rebuild their apps for scalable services? Originally most organisations were looking at ?skunk works? applications ? now they are getting more comfortable with the concept and moving to more core functions. The comment was made that ?nobody ever got fires for buying from IBM?? Vendors report being scared off cloud computing by traditional vendors deriding cloud computing services as unreliable. Alex Barnett talked about the IPP where, he said, Intuit adds value to third party SaaS vendors by creating a trust relationship ? gaining some of the halo of trust from Intuit as the platform provider.

Finally a brief discussion about private clouds, whether they are real and how providers work with them. A reminder of the presentation this morning where it was mentioned that cloud computing is a way of thinking about openess more than a location. As such a provider with their own virtual data centre that is thinking about how data will work and interrelate with the outside world can justifiably claim to be a cloud computing user.

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Ben Kepes

Cross posting from CloudAve - specialist Cloud Computing and SaaS blog

First session of the Enterprise 2.0 conference 2009 and how could I resist this one… “Cloud Computing, A Real World Guide”.

Alistair Croll, Co-author, “Complete Web Monitoring” and Principal Analyst, Bitcurrent

“Cloud computing is like modern art – I can’t describe it but I know it when I see it”. Apparently Amazon Web Services has over 60000 customers of which the majority are (somewhat surprisingly) enterprise level. An interesting analogy that cloud computing is either like soup or stew – either very configurable or easy to digest but “one size fits all”. Google app engine is soup – you can code in any language so long as it’s Python or Java – but if you fit to their rules – it’s easy, quick and simple. Amazon as an example of stew – more complex but more flexible.

Why to switch to clouds;

  • Better economics (but not always – and unhelpful to only seel cloud computing based on cost savings)
  • Developer empowerment

Croll gave the example of when The Washington Post got access to Hilary Clinton’s diaries during the election and compared the time and cost of making those diaries searchable on a local processing base versus in the clouds. They used cloud computing to convert more than 17,000 pages into a searchable database within twenty-four hours.

Croll talked around the case of Coghead – the PaaS provider that is now in the deadpool. He pointed out that developing for an agnostic PaaS provider makes no sense – leveraging a user base (a la force.com withsalesforce.com, the Intuit Partner Platform with QuickBooks) makes much more sense. He also reminded people that thinking about mobility is important for startups – building an application that is inherently tied to any one particular platform is risky in that it very much limits the possible exit strategies that can be followed.

He told the story of one massive financial services company that is considering moving all of its IT infrastructure over to Google – he wasn’t prepared to divulge details (not surprisingly) but indicated that this enterprise was adamant that Google could do it better than they themselves could with internal infrastructure.

Pick the right battle – the best place for an enterprise to use cloud computing Croll suggests are;

  • Places where traditional IT wasn’t used before because of cost, time or process limitations (witness the Clinton diary example above)
  • Where lower concerns exist around security, configuration and control

Croll pointed out a CapGemini study that found that “over 80 percent of the information a worker needs to complete their job is held outside of the organisation” and as such we should embrace being more porous with the outside rather than siloing data. He contrasted it to a similar report done 20 years ago where the figure was 20%.

A cautionary tale: the Ada language that NASA used in the eighties to replace some Fortran… While the results that Ada could bring where very attractive, it never achieved critical mass – the naysayers blocked adoption of something new while the evangelists promised too much, too soon.

An amusing metaphor – Croll pointed out that in the early days of electricity those who worked with its generation and distribution where superheroes – now they’ve been relegated to being smelly dirty workers as electricity moves to being a core utility. He contends that the same will occur with those he calls “server huggers” – as the cost of computing trends towards zero, the infrastructure behind that will become a complete commodity utility.

Croll then went on to try and refute Nick Carr’s assertion about cloud computing being a utility item like electricity – he pointed out lack of standards, low levels of interoperability, compliance requirements and the sheer number of services that a business may be able to use as being reasons that cloud computing should be thought of as different. To be honest I think his points were somewhat flawed – much of the issues he brought up are symptoms of an immature market rather than failings with cloud computing per se. In essence he was contrasting the entire cloud stack with only one level of electricity as a utility. A fairer contrast would be contrasting generation only with cloud processing.

Croll spent some time discussing the concerns and unknowns around the use of meta-data. He used the example of the image view data that Flickr has with individual images – possible a better example (given the audience) would have been the use of aggregate data for benchmarking as we’ve discussed recently with regards to mint.com.

And lastly the kitchen-aid analogy – it used to be that motors were expensive and attachments were cheap – hence buying a kitchen-aid and a bunch of attachments that go with it. A similar thing is happening with computing – once processing was expensive but attachments were cheap. Now everything has its own processing as the cost of processing plummets. Now what is important is the synchronisation, it’s an evolution towards ubiquitous computing where everything should be available everywhere – the ultimate move from a device centric world to a data-centric one.

Janetti Chon

Evening in the Cloud hosted by TechWeb’s David Berlind will take place from 4:30-8pm in the Harbor Ballroom.

Don’t miss this innovative after-hours program where leading cloud computing vendors explain how best to leverage existing IT investments while getting the benefits of the cloud. Afterwards, solutions will be demoed and attendees will get to invest a virtual $1M in their favorites.

evening-in-the-cloud

You must be registered to attend this special evening program. For inquiries or to upgrade your pass, please see our registration page.

Janetti Chon

The Enterprise 2.0 Conference spans four days with highly engaging workshops, keynotes and breakout sessions. The program is rich with customer examples of Enterprise 2.0 being applied in business today with tangible benefits.

We’ve also added in two special programs, and we welcome you to join us this June in Boston to participate.

Evening in the Cloud

Evening in the Cloud is an innovative program where leading cloud computing vendors will explain how best to leverage your existing IT investments while getting the benefits of the cloud. Open to all Conference attendees, it concludes with a “speed geeking” session, 6-minute demos pitches to win a virtual $1M from the audience. Be there to see which company walks away with the “cash”!

Enterprise2Open

Enterprise2Open is a relaxed “unconference” event, blending pre-scheduled content with an open grid where you can fill in the topics you want to discuss or a session you want to present yourself. This event is open to anyone with a Conference or Sponsor Pavilion badge.

Please register with code CNACEB08 for 20% off a conference or workshop pass, or to receive your free Pavilion Pass.

Stowe Boyd

I had a chance to speak with Niall Kennedy, who has written quite a bit about cloud computing recently, making sense of the jargon and clarifying the issues. For example, see his The Anatomy Of Cloud Computing, and Measuring Efficiency In The Cloud posts.

I am particularly obliiged to Niall for his observation that companies thinking about moving to the cloud should pick solutions that best match their non-cloud stacks, in order to minimize costs and breakage.

Paige Finkelman

It’s been interesting to watch Dell’s strategy lately. As the wold’s second largest PC maker, Dell has frequently been in the news as they swap market share for margins.

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Paige Finkelman

There are some very cool apps that live in the cloud, but the ones that impact enterprise work flow are the ones with serious prospects of longevity and financial gain. It’s not enough, however, to create singular and separate business applications that are delivered via the cloud. On top of functionality and a high quality user experience, enterprises want integration and customer service.

At Om Malik’s Structure 08 event, Zach Nelson from NetSuite touched on this very issue.

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